June 06, 2008

NO RESPECT FOR CANADIAN TRADITION

Howdy Folks...

I read this morning on the Internet that Hockey Night In Canada is going to stop using the HOCKEY NIGHT IN CANADA theme song.  They apparently submitted an email letter to the parties responsible for the HNIC theme and informed them that they will no longer use this piece of music.

I am sorry, but there are certain things that are stronger than religion, more consistent than the stench in the old Corktown's Men's washroom, and they rank high on the esteem shelf of Canadian Tradition.  These untouchables are minimal, but they shift everything positive in our planet called Canada.

Stellar moments like The Oh Canada anthem, Teenage Head, Stompin' Tom Connors, Bobby Orr, Hamilton Tiger Cats, Tommy Douglas and Pierre Trudeau are some subjective examples of the brightest stars that shine in Canada's galaxy.  You can not remove Bobby Orr from sports history.  You can not remove the plank below Stompin Tom's boot, and you can not remove Picture My Face from Canada's jukebox.  Hockeynew

However, couple of office workers from the Hockey Night In Canada selfishly have come up with this insane mental concoction.  They have decided they they can abort another piece of Canadiana. 

They want to change the Hockey Night In Canada music theme!!!!!

How can you ever justify this incredibly stupid move?  Plus, for the powers that be, who protect all that is great about Canadian Hockey...Isn't this a clear example that these cretins should be fired from their positions? 

I would be tremendously worried about other "brilliant"  ideas that these ill-functioning brain stormers may have. They should be unemployed IMMEDIATELY. 

Why do you have to change the song?  Did you lose a game of Fish to Nickelback?

Canada is the ONLY real market for Hockey.  The US has always been the intentional market for the NHL.  Let's admit it....at times Hockey at best in the US is parallel to one of the Xtreme sports.  While the NHL tries to figure out the Rubik's cube, they mishandle the properties of Hockey necessities.  This is a whole separate monster.  However, let me vent solely on the Hockey Night In Canada theme issue for now.

This is a crisis. 

I agree that sometimes everyone has to splash new paint on the walls to refresh the vibe, but you do not smear primer on the Mona Lisa!!!!!!

Below is a story that I cut and pasted directly from Yahoo.com 

Do your thing, and protect our heritage!!!!

Number 4 - Lou Molinaro

Hockey Night in Canada theme song may be benched permanently from broadcasts

Amit Shilton, THE CANADIAN PRESS

TORONTO - Hockey fans called a major penalty against the CBC Thursday as the national broadcaster seemed prepared to do away with the Hockey Night in Canada theme - a beloved 40-year-old musical institution as familiar to Canadians as the country’s national anthem.
“CBC won’t get away with that,” said Mary Quigley of Cape Breton, N.S., outside the Hockey Hall of Fame in Toronto. “The Canadian people won’t let them get away with that.”
Websites carrying news of the possible separation of the hockey anthem from Hockey Night in Canada broadcasts quickly got e-mails from people passionate about the theme.
Online petitions were launched. Some fans of the song shared anecdotes.
“In 1990 my son stood up in a crowded restaurant in Tokyo, Japan and ‘sang’ the Hockey Night in Canada theme,” commented a reader on the CBC website carrying the story. “Before he had completed four bars he was joined by various other Canadians he did not know.”
Reports that the theme might be benched next year came when the agency that represents the song’s composer said Thursday that the CBC will no longer use the familiar hockey anthem.
But the head of CBC Sports says the song hasn’t been shelved yet.
“Our negotiations continue and if we can do a deal for the theme that’s reasonable for both sides, we’ll do it,” said CBC Sports executive director Scott Moore in an interview. “It’s a great theme. If we can’t, then we have an alternate direction that we’re excited about and that I think will create controversy and create excitement amongst Canadians.”
“But certainly our first choice would be to keep the theme as it is.”
The licence agreement CBC had with composer Dolores Claman ended with this year’s Stanley Cup playoffs, which wrapped up Wednesday night.
John Ciccone, whose company Copyright Music & Visuals controls use of the song, said he was given a deadline of noon Wednesday to reach a new agreement. Ciccone said the CBC sent him an e-mail later in the afternoon telling him they would not renew the contract.
“We looked at it every different way we could,” he said. “Whatever it takes, let’s try and come up with something.”
Moore said that he was scheduled to speak with Ciccone later Thursday.
It didn’t take long for a public outcry to gather steam over the possibility of a theme change. The story immediately became a hot topic at the water cooler, on radio phone-in shows - some politicians even weighed in with their reaction.
“The Hockey Night in Canada theme - you hear it everywhere,” said Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach. “Even during the summer, you get to a barbecue in rural Alberta and somebody strikes it up after a good (version) of O Canada. And it’s going to disappear and it’s been with us for years and years.”
For many people, the song is wrapped up in hockey days gone by.
“It just brings back memories of Ward Cornell and all those other guys that brought Hockey Night in Canada to us,” said Gary Fiering, who said in Toronto that the song reminds him of watching hockey in the 1970s and ’80s. “It is our national anthem.”
But the idea of change doesn’t bother everyone.
Elizabeth Richards said in Toronto that while she remembers hearing the song as a little girl, she thinks the theme song might need a postmodern edge.
News websites had hundreds of readers weighing in and discussing the cultural significance of the theme.
Moore of CBC Sports said he thinks it is great that people are passionate about the Hockey Night in Canada broadcasts.
“While we want to keep what is a great musical theme, we can’t do it at all costs, we can’t do it with a cloud hanging over our head,” he said.
Moore said one option would be to launch a nationwide contest for musicians to submit themes for consideration.
It cost the public broadcaster about $500 every time it used the theme, but Ciccone doesn’t think the issue is money. One of the ideas Ciccone said he offered involved maintaining the same contract for two years, then increasing the rates by about 15 per cent, an increase he calls an industry standard.
Claman could not be reached for comment but released a statement on the website hockeytheme.com.
“I am saddened by the decision of the CBC to drop the Hockey Night in Canada theme after our lengthy history together. I nevertheless respect its right to move in a new direction.”
Claman wrote the song in 1968 after it was commissioned by McLaren Advertising. The company was looking for something big, adventurous and brave to go with the broadcast.
Despite going through numerous rearrangements, the jingle has become one of Canada’s most recognized tunes.
Claman has written about 2,000 jingles over her career. She is also credited with writing the Ontario theme “A Place To Stand,” which she co-wrote with her husband Richard Morris in 1967.

May 24, 2008

WE HAVE LANDED BACK TO REALITY

   
Howdy Folks..
 
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner.  The past 4 weeks have been hillariously busy and I have just placed my footings back on earth.  I was in La-La land for the past 4 weeks. N553755389_1191825_6957_2
   
We had the amazing pleasure of hosting Albert Bouchard for a week.  Within that time span we nailed down 2 great live performances as well as a recording session at Grant Ave Studio. 
   
My ego was as grand as eternity.  Albert Bouchard represents everything that is positive about music and art.  He is full of integrity, passion, kindness and craziness. N553755389_1191828_7870 The Outrageous Canadians were spoiled with great BOC stories, as well as great memories from his illustirous career.  On a personal note, one of the week's highest peaks was having Albert Bouchard, Tommy Ramone and Gord Lewis as guests on my radio show.  How cool is that???  Beat that, STERN!N818085065_2761748_9689
 
Once Albert left the Hammer, I took out my BOC records (now autographed) and started re-living possibly one of the greatest weeks of my life. 
   
Since his visit, I have contacted artists like Jeremy Gluck, The Nomads, and Dave Rave Ogilvie and shared with them the many over the top moments. N818085065_2761749_9960
 
The green light is on, and Mr. Albert Bouchard will be back.  While Albert brainstorms in the workshop, his team, Bouchard's Outrageous Canadians wait ,ready and able, in the hangar for the next voyage. N818085065_2761753_1057
 
Attached are a plethora of shots taken during the debut of Bouchard's Outrageous Canadians.  I hope you enjoy them as much as we did participating in the action.
 
 
"Riding the underground
 
Swimming in sweat
A rumble above and below
Hey cop dont you know?
The heats on alright
The hot summer day didnt quit for the night"
   
Lou
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April 19, 2008

Bouchard’s Outrageous Canadians Featuring ALBERT BOUCHARD!!!!

Howdy Folks…
I speak about BLUE OYSTER CULT a lot.  I think that part of me loves living in the past because times back then were exciting for me.  I was open to all sorts of music, and the bands that played an impact on me really created who I am today as a person.  As much as I have always loved various styles of Rock N Roll, I have always been a fan of creative induced Rock N Roll.  No other band really captained this genre better then BLUE OYSTER CULT. Blueoyster
I was in grade 7 when I first heard of Blue Oyster Cult.  I was an alter boy for Holy Cross Church in Oshawa, and another alter boy turned me on them.  His older brother was quite the music guru and learning about BOC made things a lot more exciting for me musically.  During those years, Godzilla was becoming an FM radio hit, and Don’t Fear The Reaper had already left its print on the masses. 
The more obsessive I became with BOC,Boc_tyranny the more I became aware of credits.  The more I studied the credits, the more I saw the name ALBERT BOUCHARD.  Personally speaking, Albert Bouchard was the brains that made the BOC body function.  His imagination, his melodies, and music made BOC artistically rich.
A few years ago, I had the opportunity to host a BRAIN SURGEONS show. Brainsurgeons2c The BS were a band that included Albert Bouchard.  Being a Dictators fan, I was elated to see that Ross The Boss was playing with the Surgeons.  I was super excited to host this show.  In the back of my mind, I knew that Albert Bouchard from BOC was coming into the venue that I managed.  The closer it was to the date, the more I became aware of how much I really missed those golden years with Bouchard in BOC.  1972 - 1982 was a remarkable decade for BOC.  These composers sang everything from Dominance and Submission to Joan Crawford rising from the grave.  Needless to say, that once the Brain Surgeons finished their show, I chatted with Albert Bouchard till the early hours. 
Meeting Albert Bouchard left a very spectacular impression on me.  It was like meeting Bobby Orr when I was a kid.  I was star struck.  I remembered the live BOC shows that I went to see.  I remembered buying the records as a kid, and I remember re-buying the records on CD. 
Just recently, I contacted Albert Bouchard to come up for a visit.  We spoke about presenting a workshop as well as performing live.  Instead of having Albert sit in with a bar band doing the bar circuit set list, we decided to form a band that would allow Albert the opportunity to play a bunch of songs that we so dearly miss. 

I assembled a band of Hamilton musicians that would be dish out the BOC dynamics.  We needed a name.  Sir Bouchard wanted the word “Canadian” in the name, so keeping with the BOC acronym, we decided upon BOUCHARD’S OUTRAGEOUS CANADIANS.  The band includes…
Strat Andriotis - guitars
Sean Royle - guitars
Dave Elley - Bass
Lisa Winn - Vocals
Buckshot Bebee - Vocals
Greg Brisco - keyboards
Ginger St. James - vocals
Eric Herrmann - percussions and vocals
And finally….ALBERT BOUCHARD.
The debut of the OUTRAGEOUS CANADIANS takes place on Friday April 25th at the Bovine in Toronto, and Saturday April 26th at Club Absinthe in Hamilton.
Folks….enjoy this interview with Albert Bouchard.Bouchard
I would like to dedicate this piece to Rob Sweeney (Durango 95, Purple Toads, Dominators, Boneyard Devils, Get Ready To Rumble, Crummy stuff).  His patience in teaching me about cool Rock N Roll has payed off.  After all, we are hosting an Albert Bouchard week. 
Does it get any better?

Blue Oyster Cult is an American musical institution.  Looking back at the band's infancy, it must have been somewhat interesting to see where the band would eventually land.  Both Buck Dharma and yourself started out in a band called Soft White Underbelly.  The band seemed to be soaked with lots of psychedelic sounds.  Who was Soft White Underbelly?

Soft White Underbelly was a band started by Sandy Pearlman in the summer of 1967. It had a shifting line up until the band got a record deal with Elektra in 1968. Previous to that there were a lot of musicians who came and went. Some of the singers were Steve Noonan, Jackson Browne, Jeff Richards, Richard Meltzer and finally Les Braunstein. Guitarists were John Wiesnthal (Jackson Browne's teacher) Jackson Browne, Allen Lanier, Jeff Latham, Steve Noonan and Don Roeser, We had a cello player named Mike Witzel and Sandy Pearlman played harmonica. I played drums and Andrew Winters played bass and acoustic guitar.

How much touring did the SWU do.  Were there any magical shows that stood out for you?

There were no tours as I can recall. We did mostly one off gigs or multi-night stands around New York City.

What bands or artists inspired SWU Softwhite to begin its own creative music?

We were inspired mainly by the blues guys, Muddy Waters, BB King and the rock guys Chuck Berry and also the Beach Boys, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Coasters. A band that influenced both Buck Dharma and myself were the Blues Project. The band as a whole was also influenced by Cream and the Grateful Dead.

I have heard various stories about SWU releases.  Could you be kind enough to set the record straight on this?

There has never been an official SWUB release. We cut several demos for Elektra and others and recorded basic tracks for an album but when Les Braunstein left the band the album was shelved.

You eventually started the Stalk Forest Group.  Many of us know this as the original BOC.  Who was in the original line up of the Stalk Forest Group?

Stalk Forrest was the same as BOC with the exception of Joe Bouchard on bass instead of Andy Winters. The material was more like SWUB however.

You were obviously a fan of many literary works.  How did you meet Sandy Pearlman and Richard Meltzer?  Was this during the SFG era?

Pearlman was a friend of Don Roeser on Long Island and Meltzer was his friend.

I would have loved to be in the room while Meltzer, Pearlman and yourself were working on music.  Describe the songwriting compatibility with the 3 of you?

We never were all in a room together working on songs. I would work on songs with Pearlman but Meltzer just gave me lyrics and said to do whatever I wanted with them. He didn't contribute anything to the music part of the song. OTOH his songs were easier to make music to because they rhymed more consistently and had an easily identifiable rhythm.

Oh, and other question about The Stalk Forest Group. Did Les Sing in the SFG?

No we changed the name from SWUB because at our Fillmore debut with Eric we were so bad we had to change our name.

At that time, what was Eric Bloom doing musically?  Was he part of a band ?

Eric took over from Les when we became SFG. Before that he was our road crew.

I read that there was another band before BOC called Oaxaca?

WE called ourselves that before we decided on SFG

Did you visit the Mexican state?

I've never been there but hope to someday.

Is it true that Sandy's dad owned a pharmacy?  I get this humourous image of the boys in the band hanging out at the Pharmacy, but not really sitting in the Sods fountain section of the store!...

He did own a Pharmacy in Smithtown Long Island but we did not get our drugs there.

Eventually, Joe, Eric, Donald, Allen and yourself became Blue Oyster Cult.  I read somewhere that the name was inspired by Sandy Pearlman.  How did he come up with the name?

The name was the title of a song Sandy wrote for the song cycle called Imaginos.

How did BOC land the deal with Columbia?  Was Columbia Records also working with Soft White Underbelly?

Soft White Underbelly and SFG both auditioned for Columbia and were turned down before we auditioned once again before the big cheese, Clive Davis. He decided to sign us.

Your first album was mixed with heavy rock songs as well as psychedelic flavoured songs like `` Scream`` and "She's As Beautiful As A Foot".  Personally, I thought that it was a great ensemble of songs.  Who was BOC inspired by musically at that time?

We had made a conscious decision to do our take on Black Sabbath and we were really enjoying the first King Crimson album but by the time we made the record we were having the idea that we had a pretty unique sound and really were trying to get away from any obvious imitations.

BOC has always been able to build great melodies within these diverse musical styles.  That's a hard thing to do, Mr. Bouchard!  However you seem to create these melodies consistently.  How important is that aspect of songwriting?

All music, even instrumentals, comes from singing. The human voice is our original instrument. I just try to find something that is singable and sounds different. I can spend years on a song.

The song I'M ON THE LAMB, BUT I AIN'T NO SHEEP had the same lyrics as THE RED AND THE BLACK.  Had you considered continuing the trend?  It may have been interesting having one song on each release with these particular lyrics attached to a different melody.

It has almost the same melody as well. It's a funny idea that I might do again. Some of the Ünderbelly folks want to do that on our record we've been working on.

How were you introduced to Lenny Kaye?  How did you meet Patti Smith?

I met Lenny with Patti. Sandy Pealman introduced us to Patti. He wanted her to be our lead singer but the rest of the band didn't want a girl.

During the time of your first recording, as a music fan, who were you watching and listening to?

I've always been a jazzer, Coltraine, Byrd, Count, Duke and Armstrong. I was digging everything that was on the radio as well. It was the early years of progressive FM radio so there was a lot of cool stuff around. Enough lists…

Many may not know that you wrote the bulk of the the BOC songs 72 - 82.  Did you approach the song with lyrics first or did a song start from strumming a guitar?

Most of the time, I started with the lyrics. I would record little guitar and piano riffs on my riff tapes but these were not anything but little bits. Sometimes I would match a riff I had with a lyric I had but the songs usually did not come together until I had a lyric.

So, you must be a milk lover if you make reference to a Guernsey cow...

Cow was one of the original names for SWUB.

1972 - 1982 Personally, this is a pretty impressive decade.  Most of my favourite bands live in those 10 years.  Everything from BOC, The Dictators, Mott The Hoople, NY Dolls, Sparks, DMZ, all the way to Chesterfield Kings first record.  You must have been aware of the magic happening everywhere. Care to share any specific times that stand out?

First Patti Smith gig was memorable, just her and Lenny and it was amazing. The most amazing stuff for me was before that. Seeing Jimmi in a little club, the Who, Santana and Sly and the Family Stone at the Fillmore, Cream, Grateful Dead, Blues Project and Muddy Water at Cafe Au Go Go.

Songs like WHAT IS QUICKSAND remind me of Quicksilver Messenger Service or the Dead.  Were you listening to both bands during SWU.

Yes.

BOC took the Dictators under their wings early on during their career.  How did you enjoy working with those young Dictators?

I thought they were great and hysterically funny.

You must have or had a pretty impressive record collection.  Am I correct to presume?

I don't have many records anymore but I have a 30 gig iPod that is cram packed.

The music industry changes often and quickly.  A few weeks ago I read a story online that indicated that vinyl is the only musical format that continues to increase in sales, more so than CDs.  What's your take on that?

Really? Wow!

So, I have to ask you about the term Diz-Busters.  Is it true that this refers to someone or something that makes one ejaculate.  If this is true......SEVEN?  Wow!

No. It's someone who alters the penis in not a good way. Very bad.

Did you know that a very super cool band from Sweden called The Nomads had a side project called the Screaming Diz-Busters?

I'd love to hear them.

Jazz creeps into the BOC music a lot.  Did any of BOC study Jazz in school?

The only one who studied it was Joe. The rest of us just picked it up but Don Roeser Sr. is an excellent jazz sax player.

One of my favourite live albums of all time is ON YOUR FEET ON YOUR KNEES.Bocknees   Its the perfect description of a live Rock N Roll band.  Oddly enough within the first 10 years of BOC, you released 3 live records.  I really liked Some Enchanted Evening, and there were a few great moments in Extra Terrestial Live.  Were you a fan of live records in general?

Actually I wasn't in general but for BOC those records are my favorites.

Who was the Animals fan in the band?

How can you not like the Animals? I just did a tour with them in France (2 originals) and they're still awesome.

BOC had some pretty impressive tours.  You shared the stage with all sorts.  Rush, Black Sabbath, UFO, Be Bop DeLuxe, Utopia, The Dictators, early ACDC.  Is it true that you also played with Mott The Hoople, Iggy, NY Dolls, and even T-Rex?

Yes and a huge list more. Sorry Lou.

I think that it is safe to say that AGENTS OF FORTUNE increased the popularity of BOC.  Once the popularity stepped in, did the job of being a musician also change?

Many things changed. Lifestyles, workload, record company pressure, inter-band jealousy, outside-band jealousy, expectations, disappointments, temptations, drugs. It's not hard to loose your way.

How does popularity change creativity?

You can say you're not distracted but it's easier said than done.

Subjectively speaking, some of the coolest bands and acts name drop BOC as inspirations.  Here are only a few...  Radio Birdman, The Dictators, The Nomads, Julien Cope.  This is quite remarkable!

In the mid 80's BOC actually changed their name to Soft White Underbelly for a short while.  What was the idea behind the resurrection of the name?

We wanted to play some gigs in small venues before or after we did the big show in the same town so it was a way to do that and not freak the promoters of the big show out.

The character IMAGINOS and the concept is still so current, especially when you take into consideration some Political figures.  Do you agree?

Imaginos is about the past and the future.

Most recently, you created the Brain Surgeons.  This band is a representation of a current Albert Bouchard in a more current form of musical business.  How do you like having your own record label?

It was great for the first 10 years. Sometimes it gets tiring being the leader though.

The Brain Surgeons also featured Ross The Boss on its last release.  How did you hook up with Ross for this record?

The Dictators had broken up for probably the last time and he was available. I've always wanted to have a band with him so it was great for the two years we worked together. Now we're on to other things but I'm sure we'll play together again.

Did you feel an obligation to continue on creating Heavy Rock with the Brain Surgeons?  Did you consider maybe forming a psychedic band, or jazz band instead?

That's what I'm doing now with Ünderbelly.

The Brain Surgeons were like a tease to most BOC fans, and I say that with respect.  Knowing that Albert Bouchard is in the band makes the fans expect to hear some BOC music.  You must be delighted to know that your music never expires.  Did this conflict with your creative insight?  Or did this inspire more music to be created?

It did at first but after a while I learned how to give them what they wanted and also please myself by giving them something they didn't expect too.

Many true BOC fans felt like there was a death in the band once you left.  There are so many variations on why the band continued sans Albert.  I continued collecting BOC records post Albert, but that delicious spice that made BOC so tasy was missing.  Could the 5 of you possibly consider working together permanently again?  Considering that the original line up is still alive and well, it could make a reunion very possible.

We talk about it occasionally. It's possible.

You are going to be backed up by 8 Hamilton Ontario musicians for a few shows in Ontario.  Do you venture into these territories often?  How many times are you asked to "Chuck Berry" a back up band?

This is a first for me.

Continuing on with the BOC acronym, BOUCHARD'S OUTRAGEOUS CANADIANSLong_and_mcquade debuts on April 25th in Toronto and April 26th in Hamilton.  Should this be a successful project musically, would you consider continuing on with this idea?  I know that the Outrageous Canadians are willing to share the limo with you, Sir!

Of course.

You are teaching music in New York.  These students also represent the future of music.  Would you say that Rock N Roll is going to be alive and well with future generations?

Most of my students still love punk so I'd say so. It's the white grandfather of hip hop.

Do your students realize who Albert Bouchard is?

Thanks to Will Farrell and SNL.

Recently, you had the opportunity to visit France.  Was this trip related to working with Les from Soft White Underbelly?

Yes, Les is the main singer in Ünderberlly.

I read somewhere most recently, you are in a trio with Dennis Dunaway, and your brother Joe Bouchard.  Any talk of releasing a record?

We talk about it but as we have many other projects it's on the back burner for now.

Who are you listening to nowadays?

A mix of classic rock, world music and jazz.

You have always enjoyed Sci-Fi.  Are you still enjoying the new slant on it?

I'm not as into sci-fi as I used to be, mostly literature and crime novels.

Have you ever read Umberto Eco's FOUCAULT'S PENDULUM?  It reminds me of a BOC-esque story.  The only thing that is missing is the 2 Bouchard Bros, Bloom, Lanier and Roeser.

I had the book but never read it and and lost it somewhere.

You had a very unique drumming style compared to other Rock Drummers.  Who did you look up to as Percussionists?

Gene Krupa, Joe Morrello, Tony Williams, Ringo, Keith Moon, Bonham etc.

March 21, 2008

HALF CSONTOS HALF BREAU
A JOURNEY CALLED SIMPLY SAUCER

Howdy Folks…

I had the honour of interviewing Joe Csontos and Edgar Breau from Simply Saucer in the past few days.  When I was getting ready to interview both of these dudes, I realized that Art is so often misunderstood or taken for granted.  While society is inundated with commercialism, many of us tend to forget real art.  Waves that come and go musically frustrate the market, as well as frustrate the consumer.  Simply Saucer represents the true essence of Rock Music.  The dangers that lie within the songs, the risks that artists take to be genuine, and the fortitude of expression is what makes REAL music live on. 

Luckily, for Simply Saucer, their story is “Here Yesterday,BUT Lookout For Tomorrow”.

Simply SaucerHalf_human_half_live will be celebrating the release of HALF HUMAN HALF LIVE on Friday April 4th 2008 at The Westside Theatre.  It’s an honour to be promoting this event, and more importantly, its an honour to have these gents as peers.

Enjoy this very entertaining look at Simply Saucer.

JOE CSONTOS

Simply Saucer is a selective sounding Rock N Roll band.  As loud as the influences are, would you say that the departure from the project probably has influenced the sound of the current Simply Saucer the most?

Funk,specifically the euro-type of  funk of Can. Of course,it never sounds like that in the finished product but it is there at the inception. James Brown for the simplicity of the arrangements ,at least that’s how they start and the layering process begins. Jimi Hendrix as well...

You fit into this band both musically and logistically.  You represent the “new blood” of Simply Saucer, as do Steve Foster and Dan Winterman.  Did it take long for this current line up to gel?

I think the band really started to “gel” as you would say after Steve Foster joined the band as a full time member and suffering through a  a few gigs with us in Montreal and Ottawa. Suffering the travel with the band not the music.that is...

How did you get invited to join Simply Saucer?

Bruce the Mole asked me several years ago to consider a one off with Sparky,Kevin and Edgar in 2006. 

Stepping into a band that has Seminal status, and Cult like existence, there has to be some sort of extra responsibility towards maintaining the Cool vibe of the band.  Do you find the Saucer fan base somewhat different in comparisons to other projects that you were involved in?

The fan base ranges from people in their early 20’s to people our parent’s age. Me Mum loves us.

Just like Simply Saucer, you as well took a break from road travels.  Is your approach towards traveling with this band more different than previous excursions?

It’s all about balance,which at times is a challenge...but my wife and kids know that if I don’t play music I will drive them crazy at home...it’s kinda like cabin fever,really.

The new record HALF HUMAN HALF LIVE is a collaboration of live and studio recorded material.  Why choose this concept?

I think because the  Cyborgs record were low-fi recordings never meant for release in that particular state and the fact that people loved perhaps for that reason that “we” wanted to bridge our new recordings with a touchstone of the past,even though most of the arrangements have been re=worked by the new incarnation.

Compromise in your life now must mean a lot.  What does your family think of you being part of Simply Saucer?  Obviously, you thought out the whole plan before committing to a potentially lengthy adventure.  Are all of you comfortable and ready to make this your main focus?

Never say never to any possibility but for now see above question for the answer.

Simply Saucer live is energetic and tight.  However there is a definite noticeable flow.  The songs seem to get from Point A to Point Z very easily.  Loudness is also another element that has been audibly noticeable.  Simply Saucer’s dynamics of loudness remind me of a Blue Oyster Cult show from long ago.  BOC were soooo loud but clear.  Did you guys put effort in making the live shows loud?

I think some of the best bands live understand and understood the use of dynamics and space. Ask Don Van Vliet.

The demographic of Simply Saucer is interesting.  Its made up of fans who take their music very seriously, but there is also a noticeable range in ages.  Are you somewhat surprised at how many young people enjoy Simply Saucer?

A little surprised but I think it is wonderful.

You have been a friend of SS for a long time.  You were hanging out with the band during the “Saucer House” era.  Are there any moments that stand out during those early Saucer years?

Nothing that is shocking or lurid but we had some extremely “out there” philosophical discussions on a few nights. H.P. Lovecraft and Crowley thrown in with an intensely loud soundtrack of Motorhead’s Overkill by Carl.   

How was the band live back then?

Definitely more short song oriented but there was some extended workouts ala the song Reckless Agitation. 

You have a very interesting connection to Teenage Head as well.  Care to mention what happened during the Hamilton Music Awards sound check?

I was the first drummer in T-Head for about 2 days when it was Gordie,Steve and Nick was  the singer. When Jack Pedler had to duck out of the HMA sound check I was invited to play once again w/ the ‘Head. It was fantastic.

Saucer is an example of how Old Records Never Die.  Did you think back then that Simply Saucer would be like a phoenix and rise again?

Never in a million years...so once again I reiterate”never say never...

Listed as #36 in Mesereau’s - All of you must have questioned perspectives.  How often has the band referred to that recognition for extra assurance?

Perspective changes throughout the ages...who said if  you  hang around long enough,”they” will eventually give you an award. Something to that effect. One record and one gig at a time.

Ayers or Cale?

Are you kidding me,Cale,of course,imagine yourself at 65 years old still looking menacing and cool ,all at the same time.

Who would Joe Csontos like to see replacing Sonic Smith and Rob Tyner for the DEFINITIVE MC5

There are no substitutes for those two.

Detroit or New York?

Trick question? In the seventies and early eighties definitely NYC but since the 90’s
and currently-Detroit Rock City,baby.

New Christs seem to be a perfect example of a band who are probably huge Rock N Roll record collectors.  Think of any other examples?

Mars Volta,Robert Pollard,and Ken Fox. Do I get to talk about Imants Krumins yet?

Mudhoney seemed to best represent Seattle in my honest opinion.  How about you, Joe?

Initially,I thought so too, but Nirvana killed me with Dave Grohl-chunkier,harder and the songwriting just got better.

EDGAR BREAU
Simply Saucer's second wind is very important because it sheds light on the true meaning of the Independent music existence. A cult status band who has been labeled as a proto-type punk band in 1974 comes back 30 years later and receives international attention.  Does this make sense to you, Edgar?

Only when you know the whole story of how it happened and the role played by certain music critics who took up our cause and promoted the band when we were long dead. As well, our influences themselves over the years grew in importance, especially the Velvet Underground who had become one of the most influential bands in the world despite never having a hit record.

Hamilton definitely had some sort of magical ingredients in the Burlington Bay.  Take this into consideration.  King Biscuit Boy, Gord Lewis, Mickey DeSadist, Dave Rave, Tim Gibbons, Tom Wilson, Edgar Breau, Harrison Kennedy, Daniel and Bob Lanois, and a bunch more.......What explains this musical mythology?

All of the above artists could have moved away and stayed away but we all chose to keep a strong connection to this city because we love the people here and believe that our work has an integral connection to this area. Without it we wouldn't have been the same. I think there's a stubborn tenaciousness in all of us. Also not being part of a trendy scene in a way helps the artist arrive at a vision that is truly his/her own.

How did Simply Saucer start?

Simply Saucer started with two boys attending Bishop Ryan High School, myself and Paul Colilli a keyboard player talking endlessly in and out of class about all the cool records we were buying. Later on, we met a couple of others at Bob Moody's Record Bar on John St. My foster brother played synth and audio generator and the bass player Kevin Christoff I met at Sir Wilfred Laurier High School. We used to have record spinoffs with Imants Krumins, where we drank a lot of wine and played and rated records..bands like the Saints, Savage Rose, the Velvets, Flamin' Groovies, Hawkwind, Kinks, Thirteenth Floor Elevator, Seeds, Can, Faust, Sun Ra..etc etc

Did being so different musically, effect all of you on a personal basis?  For some reason, I get this mental image of people looking at you guys and thinking..."who are these guys?"  Is there any validity to this?

Yea there was a certain artistic, not exactly affectation, but a deliberate turning away from the mainstream not only musically but in some ways socially. We were similar to the French linguistic deconstructionists who wanted to start all over again with language. Music was something to be deployed like a weapon against the unsuspecting audience. Unfortunately at the time there WAS NO audience for our music which was chaotic and very much improvised.

Obviously, the name is an ode to early Pink Floyd and Syd Barrett.  How did you first learn about the mentioned names?

I'm sure it was Paul Colilli who introduced me to Piper at the Gates of Dawn '67/68. He read a lot of English Pop mags and eventually we discovered the Move, the Herd, the Soft Machine, Tyranosaurus Rex and many other great bands.

Explain what Hamilton was like musically in the early 70's?  Where did you shop for records back then?

There were a lot of cover bands. I bought records at Kresge's, Melody Lane, Bob Moody's Record Bar, Hermandad's and of course Sam the Record Man's and various Buffalo stores. Plus from import record catalogues.  You could find records in variety stores as well on budget labels.

What were the early Saucer shows like in Hamilton?  When was the official first Simply Saucer show?

The first show we played was at St. Alban's Anglican Church on Brittania St. in the east end. We were an east end band. We played three sets and I know the second set consisted of one song called "Noise". We only played that one once. It was completely improvised and I played an audio generator. In the middle of it, fights began breaking out in the audience and eventually the cops arrived and hauled some people away.

At what venues did you perform in Hamilton?

We played Westdale High, Sir John A. McDonald, Burlington Fair, the YMCA, YWCA, the Kiwanis Club

Bands like the Velvets, Stooges and Barrett's version of Pink Floyd are often name dropped by those who try to explain Simply Saucer.  Are there any other bands that we should also acknowledge as inspirations?

Can, the Krautrock bands in general,for me Moby Grape, Lighnin Hopkins, the Kinks, I'm sure the Stones and a little bit of Hendrix, Hawkwind, the Soft Machine, Pink Fairies, Eddie Cochrane, Terry Riley, Sun Ra lots of others

I understand that you kept in touch with Craig Bell of Rocket From The Tombs back in the early 70's.  How did you learn about RFTT?

Craig and I were both members of the Syd Barret Appreciation Society and began corresponding around 1973 or so. He was playing in a band called the Saucers at the time and eventually ended up playing in Rocket from the Tombs.

You must have felt some ambition from knowing that Cleveland was tapped into the same headspace as Breau and Christoff back in the early 70's.  Did you ever have the chance to see each other's shows back then?

No, unfortunately not..Craig did come to Hamilton looking for me but I was out of town the day he arrived. His wife, was a prof I think  doing a seminar on Women's studies at the u. of Toronto.

There has been folklore built on the "Saucer House".  Many local musicians will always make reference to various stories, but most importantly, they always comment on how Simply Saucer formulated a sound, image and dynamic at the corner of Main and Ferguson.  What was the environment like at this historical location?

There was constant stream of people that came through the house and so often when we rehearsed there was a ready made audience which was great but eventually the party atmosphere got totally out of hand and got in the way of the artistic ends of the band. Band members got burned out, addicted and messed up and the centre did not hold. The centrifugal forces hurled us all into various parts of the universe...

You played with Pere Ubu back in the late 70's.  Plus you revisited the experience a few months ago in Hamilton.  You must have been somewhat delighted to see that although so many things change, its good to see things stay the same.  Both bands seemed more mature, and both acts still had this overflowing passion about their art.  How important was it to reunite again with the Ubus for you on a personal level?

Yea it was fun to see that sort of commitment on the part of Pere Ubu to an uncompromising musical vision. Both bands came from cities with industrial backgrounds in the shadow of larger more sophisticated artistic centres but managed to make  their musical statements apart from universal adulation. 

During the 1977 punk scene, Simply Saucer were musically different compared to the young punk bands.  Both the Saucers and the punks bands had the same musical inspirations, however your styles were very different.  Did you think of this as a positive foundation for SS or was it a deterrent?

Well yeah it was in some ways a more difficult sell for us because our musical mix was more diverse than some of the Toronto punk bands. We were listening to the Ramones and aware of the Sex Pistols and the Damned and all the rest.. It was just that we weren't musically influenced by them to any great extent. My favorite English bands at the time were the Only Ones and the Soft Boys. I had grown up in the East End of the Hammer with real punks..I didn't need to wear safety pins but I did wear a leather jacket. The whole deliberate minimalist approach to music had drawbacks as well, least of all some very boring and repetetive arrangements. I tended to prefer the punk/artiste Television Patti Smith axis to the fast/loud and ugly version that was dominating in Toronto. Teenage Head had some influences like the Dolls, Groovies, rockabilly and apparently Hawkwind that kept the mix interesting but again they were a kind of hybrid like ourselves.

You recorded your music with Bob Lanois.  How did you meet Bob?

The first time I met Bob was in 1974 when him and brother Dan had a studio in the basement of their mother's Ancaster home called Master Sound Studio. Our manager Rick Bissell had booked some time for us to record demos to interest clubs and hopefully labels.

What was the recording experience like?  Was Bob aware of what you were trying to do musically?

Bob did most of the recording though Dan helped as well when he was around. I wasn't sure just where their musical tastes lie so I brought a copy of the Stooges Raw Power and the Velvet Underground's White Light White Heat to give Bob an idea of what we wanted. Bob took it all in stride, was very professional and interested in the electronics we were using.

How long did it take to record all these songs?

I think it was all of two days..much of it live off the floor.

Was there an official Simply Saucer release during the initial existence of the band?

No but there was an unofficial wine fest along with some other incidentals...

Many times, I hear more of the early 70's English Rock in your music as compared to New York or Detroit.  I hear many traces of early Pink Fairies and Hawkwind in Cyborgs. Did you guys have specific records that you wanted to sound like? 

I really liked the first Pink Fairies record with Larry Wallis..kings of oblivion
We had a Detroit influence (the Stooges) mixed with a New York Influence (the Velvet Underground) topped with an Anglophile love affair

When did the official break up actually take place?

1979, the fall? K.C. would know he's the archivist

Did you put together another band after the break up of Simply Saucer? 

I reunited with David Byers who was an original member in a band called Third Kind around 1983. Kevin Christoff from the Saucer played bass and his brother Dereck played the drums. We did some interesting recordings but never played live.

There was this pure volatile sound to Simply Saucer.  It seems that some bands try to sound this way, while others unfortunately live it.  How much did Saucer bleed its real life experiences or references to its music?

Quite a bit actually I was living wherever our rehearsal space was and at one time in a store front, sleeping on a thin piece of foam, without a bath, shower, closet, stove..that's where Cyborgs Revisited was born..in the distance the smoke stacks and the mysterious clanking of steel...

After a hiatus, you stepped back into the scene on a solo basis?  How did it feel stepping into the "acoustic" field musically?  Also, how different was the music scene in Hamilton since the departure of Simply Saucer?

For me it was a refreshing change playing acoustic. I was a big fan of John Fahey, Nick Drake Mel Lyman, Sandy Bull, Mississippi John Hurt, Pentangle  countless others. I decided doing the troubadour things wasn't such a bad idea. Many of the bands I admired also had a softer side.

How did you meet Bruce Mowat?

Bruce caught a set I did at the Baytides Cafe and introduced himself.

Bruce singlehandedly established Simply Saucer as a MUST HEAR band.  Were you overwhelmed by his enthusiasm?

Yea still am he's a one man promotional army, a good friend, mentor and an inexhaustible resource for local musicians.

Again, Simply Saucer is tainted with these great valid anecdotes.  Were you at Copps Colliseum when Thurston Moore dedicated a song to Simply Saucer?

No I learned about it the next day reading the review in the Spec and then the spec called for an interview about it.

You must have been freaked to hear that Thurston Moore was paying homage to a Garage band from Hamilton.  Did that make you look at your work or musical involvement differently? 

Yea validation from your peers is always nice and gives you encouragement to continue on..

Afterwards, younger fans were picking up on Simply Saucer, and they treated SS like a rare discovery.  Were you prepared to consider the revisitation of Simply Saucer? 

Not at first, I had been separated from my own repertoire, my own catalogue for many years and it was only by a very convoluted process that I was brought to the point where I could ask myself the questions like "what if' or "how" or "with whom" or "can you do it again'. I think that having a new young audience that were digging the band played a large part in my decision to reform Simply Saucer and wherever I played solo they would come out of the woodwork and ask about the band.

How important is it to be a Hamilton band?  Would this band have been the same if it was started in another city?

No, it wouldn';t have been..that industrial hardscrabble sub text gave the band it's grittiness

Luckily for us, you were performing acoustic shows during the 2nd phase of Simply Saucer.  Both shows are musically different.  Do you need that balance as an artist?

Yea pretty well..it's all part of my many sided personality that I'm still trying to sort out.

How long did it take before Kevin Christoff and yourself decided to reform SS?

I think cranking the Les Paul up on stage at our first mini show at the Corktown did it for me. The other factor was finding creative musicians to play with and Joe Csontos, Dan Winterman and Steve Foster fit the bill admirably. All of them bring substantial musical gifts to the table and eventually we began to jell.

SS -  thats kind of funny in its own way..hahahha

not going there, man...

Do you feel comfortable as being tagged as the leader of Simply Saucer?

Yea I suppose so..but it is a real band it's not Edgar Breau and Simply the Sidemen

How did you meet Foster, Csontos and Winterman?

Joe was a part of the Saucer circle way back in the seventies, hung out with us, gigged with us, booked us, partied with us..he was invited by Steve Park to see Steve's first gig with us at the YWCA. Joe played with the Loudmouths who opened for us way back when. Daniel I first met as part of the Velvet Underground tribute band doing a benefit at the Casbah..or was it with the 'Battleship Ethyl?  Steve, we rehearsed at his studio on Napier st in Dundas and soon he had joined the band and was recording our new album at Catherine North.. Steve moves fast

Your visits into the studio were close to 30 years apart.  How did it feel going into the Saucer recording headspace?  Any similarities to Cyborgs?

It was surreal, a fantastic full circle and Duke and Steve Foster were great to work with

So Simply Saucer has achieved real estate in the Canadian Rock N Roll Art History.  Who would have thought that 30 years later, Cyborgs would achieve status as 36th on the TOP 100 Canadian Records.  Ed....these are bragging rights.  Plus you are in pretty good company!  What do you make from all of this?

I think there's always a good thing waiting for you around the corner, man
the future is up for grabs
here's to yesterday, today and tomorrow!

here are a few quickies...

You played with Richard Lloyd recently.  He definitely brought 2 lungs full of New York and shot it out musically.  Richard also openly mixes the street life with spirituality.  Some see this as a oxymoron.  What is your take on this?

There's life lived existentially. There are messages from outside. There is reason. There is faith. Science. Poetry. Music.
Richard is in pursuit of that. It's just that he looks in some very dangerous places. I have to admire that. At the same time we are very fragile beings...His session at Grant Ave was amazing

Have you ever thought about working with Gord Lewis?  Both of you have a very deep root to New York, Detroit and England, musically.

Gord's a true Hamilton musical legend and sure I'd work with him. We could call the project Simply Head (just joking)  Saucer have some real connections with Teenage Head. Steve Park came over to Saucer after helping form the original five piece version of Teenage Head. Our drummer, Joe Csontos was their first drummer. I'm sure there are some common musical influences as well like the Stooges..I was a big fan of the Flaming Groovies who's LP, Teenage Head gave them their name.
Last but not least both my father and Frank's father were guards together at the Barton St. jail..now how's that for a connection?

Have you heard Kevin Ayers newest record?

No but i've heard it's really awesome..

You saw Willie P Bennett perform in Feb 2007.  What did you think of the show?

It was my first time seeing Willie and I was totally blown away

Have you ever thought about having your own satellite radio show? 

No but I once did a show at CFMU with Imants Krumins

What do you remember about the first time The Forgotten Rebels opened for you?
I remember my friend Mickey burning the Canadian flag and my brother Mike punching out three of their roadies for badmouthin us.
Did you ever see Slander?

no

March 04, 2008

I KNEW AND DROPPED OUT WITH EXPATRIATE GLUCK

   
Howdy Folks...
 
The magic dust still keeps getting sprinkled on yours truly, and because of this special powder, I am getting freaked with the opportunities of interviewing Heroes and Iconic figures.
 
Many years ago, I bought a Barracudas record on a recommendation from a friend.  I remember walking into Star Records in Oshawa and asking Mike Shulga if he heard of a band called the Barracudas. Barracudas1 Luckily, he had a play copy available and spun it in the store.  I immediately loved it. It's a great slice of power pop with all sorts of nods to surf and 60's Garage music. 
 
When I bought this record, I had no idea of bands like the Seeds, The Standells or The Remains.  I learned about these bands by following 2 bands quite closely.  The Chesterfield Kings from Rochester NY and The Barracudas from London England were door openers to a completely new vibe and style of music. 
   
Later on that same year, I went to Carleton University, and all the cool record stores were talking about this guy by the name of Jeremy.  I finally figured who the mystery man was once I stepped into CKCU and met Nadine Gelineau.  As she was speaking with another radio host, John Stamos.....not the actor, I overheard the 2 of them speaking about this Jeremy guy again.  Finally, I asked Nadine who he was referring to, and she replied: "Jeremy Gluck".  In my mind, I thought...."JEREMY GLUCK OF THE BARRACUDAS!!!!!  THAT'S HUGE!!!" 
   
So, after the mental freakout, I regained my psychotic composure and realized that good ol' Canada was that much more cooler for producing a dude like Mr. Gluck.
   
Couple of years later in Ottawa, I worked part time in a record store.  It was an awful chain record store. I tried to convince the manager to let me bring in my own music during my shifts.  However, with tons of confidence, he replied "Lou, no one cares about the shit that you listen to".  So, I was stuck having to hear Amazulu, INXS, all sorts of very bad French dance (danse) music, and A-HA.  Not a word of a lie.....The music gave me a mental rash!!!!! 
   
Luckily, this record store brought in an Assitant Manager who actually liked cool music.  His name was Blair.  I can not remember his last name, but he could have been Michael Stipe's twin.  He noticed a cool T-shirt that I was wearing, and that began the conversation about musical likes.  You see, I ALWAYS wear cool T-shirts, and even though my personality can not start a conversation, my Tees always do!!! 
   
He asked me something along the lines of what kind of music I was enjoying.  I remember name dropping Jeremy Gluck's BURNING SKULLS RISE.Burning12   Blair lit up a smile and told me that he knew Jeremy very well. Furthermore, his worshipping sessions about Mr. Gluck made him a Cult Status ROCK GOD! 
   
Just recently, I had the opportunity to touch base with Jeremy Gluck.  He was kind enough to answer a bunch of questions that I always wanted to know.  I think that this is a great interview and I am that much better off in life because of this Q & A opportunity..
   
Ladies and Gents...My interview with Mr. Jeremy Gluck.
   
Jeremy Gluck is a name that is associated with a distinctive slice of music. I would even go far enough to say that your fans are "Music snobs", like myself, who take their music seriously.  As an artist, were you more intrigued with playing music for those who shared the same musical likes as yourself?  Or, did you pursue music hoping that you could convince the mainstream minds to take those musical risks?
   
I would have to say that it had been a combination of the two. Growing up in Ottawa before punk rock rescued us, I gravitated to the music my older brother and older friends fixated on; The Stooges, MC5, the Dolls, Nuggets and so on. The seed of eclecticism was planted young. Robin and I formed The Barracudas consciously set upon playing music alien to those around us. We did have an almost evangelical love of garage punk and power pop: Hey, you don't play King of the Surf for skinheads without some degree of commitment! We did want to convert the massses, but as we loved cult bands we also wanted that backward kudo of carving a niche and being poor in it. But we were always interested in a big record deal, big studios...those drugs of the aspirant rock n roll star. And we got them, for a while.
   
When I was first turned on to the Barracudas, I honestly felt that you guys were possibly the best power pop band in the world.  
   
Now I'm blushing. But...only "possibly"?
   
I remember thinking that The Barracudas music was a musical marriage of bands like The Boys, The Beach Boys, The Clash's first 2 records, early Kinks, The Standells, and The Ramones. Was there a musical prerequiste that each musician had to have in order to be in the Barracudas?
   
The definitive Barracudas line-up comprised one singer who couldn't sing that'd be me one excellent drummer in Nick, and a bassist who was taught bass by the great guitarist Dave and Robin. The Boys! I love “Brickfield Nights”. Like any good band we were more than the sum of our parts. Robin and I were united in our love of certain musical genres and bands and a sense of humour about same. Dave just looked right, and Nick was a very good drummer with a bent for practicalities. Robin and I got into the surf angle because we played so many styles nobody knew what we were about. The surf thing got us in the papers right away. We were “cool”. And it's always good to be cool!
   
Robin Wills overheard you speaking about The Seeds, and that apparently united the both of you.  Is that true?
   
The first time I was in London in early 1977 I did indeed go to The Speakeasy to see long-lost Pye band Dead Fingers Talk and was conversing with some marginal music journalist about The Seeds. Lurking nearby was a shortish fellow who, when I ended my conversation, approached me and asked if I had been discussing The Seeds. At that time, on the eve of the Pebbles boom, this was not an everyday occurrence in the clubs of London. Within minutes we were yakking volubly. I soon went to Robin's parents place in Motspur Park where he was still living and saw and heard his enormous collection of prime vinyl. We became fast friends.
   
How did you meet Nick, and David?
   
When I went to London to live in 1978 I met some characters who squatted in Westbourne Grove, some of whom attended Hornsey Art College and were in or associated with The Raincoats. Amongst their pals were Nick, who came from affluent 'burbs folk. We lured him in. David Robin stumbled upon at the White Rats gig at The Electric Ballroom and, admiring his Byrdsian haircut, invited him to play bass with The Barracudas; as he couldn't play, Robin proceeded to teach him.
 
When I attended Carleton University, I went to a lot of the record stores in Ottawa, and I would say that the 2 names that I heard  often in record stores were Les Emerson and Jeremy Gluck.  At that point, I realized that your name already achieved a Cult Status reputation.  Musicians who I have interviewed dislike that particular tag, while others feel that it is the most credible honour.  In your point of view, Is that a positive reputation to have as an artist?   
   
It can be but it is also a double-edged sword in that it can be a consolation prize position in terms of commercial success. I grew up loving cult bands of that time the Groovies, Stooges et. al. - so it was not something I felt was negative. On the other hand, I think that had we not self-destructed The Barracudas could have been much more than a cult band. Now it seems that The Barracudas are more popular than ever. We had a track on a UK compilation a few years ago that sold hundreds of thousands of copies, so we seem to have become an enhanced cult band. Or something.
   
You were born in Canada, but you moved to the UK to pursue your musical career.  Back then, was there something about Canada's music industry, or Canada's music scene that deterred you from staying here?
   
Only that I saw Toronto bands getting big...in Toronto, And I realised that was the only place they would ever get big or be noticed to any great extent. And so it proved. I wanted to see London, and I thought that if I could make something happen in London it would be a real achievement. I loved The Viletones, Teenage Head, and The Diodes et. al. But by early 78 when I left it was already obvious there was not going to be a serious uptake of such acts by the public. All credit to The Diodes for their CBS deal, though.
   
I often think, "What would Canada have been like if Jeremy Gluck stayed in Canada?"  You are obviously a charismatic artist who is confident about your art and style.  I am sure that when Punk Rock was breaking in Canada, and even after the initial TORONTO 1977 scene, you could have Captained a national scene.  Do you ever wonder what it would have been like had you stayed and pursued your music in Canada?
   
An interesting question...who knows? After I'd visited London in 77 I was only interested in going back there, I had fallen in love with the place. So it never would have happened. I'd met Robin, too. The die was cast.
   
Are there any musical moments from Ottawa that you have cherished?  This could be either with you as a musician, or as a fan.
   
Many! Growing up in Ottawa in the 70s was a bonanza for rock n roll. No kidding! Local heroes like Murray McLauchlan and Pagliaro came thru a lot, and I listen to them to this day. And then every tour: Alice Cooper, Bowie, Roxy Music, KISS (Simmons' hair caught fire during the fire-breathing act and a roadie had to put it out!) the list goes on and on. Seeing Springsteen at the NAC in 73 was...words fail me, and the next time in 75 at the Civic Centre he was cataclysmically awesome.
   
Once you arrived in England, you must have felt somewhat overwhelmed with the thick musical scene at that time.  Tell me about your recollections of that magical time?
   
The first time I went, in Sping 77, it was as though Heaven had come to Earth. I saw a gig every nite, and what gigs...Gen X, The Saints...incredible. Everybody was in a band or forming a band or hanging with or going to see a band. I could have seen the Pistols if I'd gotten to Sweden a few days earlier. D'oh! The second time I went to stay, in 78, was also amazing. I flew into Heathrow, Robin met me and we went to his friend's flat where he played me Complete Control, it had just been released. I said, They sound like The Beatles now!, and Robin thought that was very funny. :-)
   
While you were in England, the 1977 Punk Scene had exploded, and a few years later, this explosion would act as a foundation to other musical expressions.  Acts like XTC, Elvis Costello, The Police, The Stranglers, and The Cure were born.  However, the Barracudas went backwards musically, in order to progress.  What other bands existed in England that were on the same page as the Barracudas?
   
None that I am aware of, and I'm not being precious. Can you think of any?
   
The United States of America had the Chesterfield Kings as the teachers of Nuggets, and Pebbles.  England had the Barracudas.  Would you say that's pretty accurate? 
   
Yes, I would. We were missionaries for the garage sound.
   
Who was Geoff Mann?  I know that he was a Surf Music fan.  Was he a musician as well?
   
Geoff is a dear fellow, now employed in the higher echelons of some London borough council. In 78-79 when The Barracudas were beginning, he was one of our regulars at gigs. He had a little label, Cells Records, and had released one single when he approached us. He wasn't a musician, just a raving fan.
   
The Barracudas played with acts like the Stray Cats, and even the Tourists (pre Eurythmics). Are there any particular Barracudas shows that stand out? 
   
With The Stray Cats we played Brighton, it was a hellish tour. On the nite in question unbeknownst to us our publisher, agent and others were in attendance. We had major Teddy Boy problems on that tour with fake Teds harassing us. At one point I harangued them for not being American whereas our bassist Dave was. A hail of cans was directed at me, one which bounced off my forehead to great applause. It's tough at the top.
   
Nick Turner went on to join LORDS OF THE NEW CHURCH.  Personally, I thought that the LOTNC were a supergroup of sorts.  It must have been great being present during those early LOTNC shows.  What did you think of the Lords?
   
Stiv's strategy was clever, and some of their songs rocked, but to be honest the Lords bored me. All that fancy dressing and other nonsense did nothing for me.
   
The Barracudas had a Flamin' Groovie play for a duration of the band's existence.  How did you meet Chris Wilson?
   
After Drop Out there was a short-lived Paisley Underground scene in London we got associated with, although most of the bands were awful. Anyhow, a friend of ours had a psychedelic clothing stall in Kensington High St Market we'd bought stage clothes from. He'd hung out with the Groovies in San Francisco and one day told me he'd heard Chris had left the band and was headed to London. I bided my time and then when he arrived a meet was arranged at a club. We got on good and little by little he joined The Barracudas.
   
I read on the liner notes of TWO SIDES OF A COIN, that Chris' addition to the band took away from the band's "Puritanical monomania".  Were you hesitant to take the band in a different direction?
   
Robin, Jim and I all considered the Groovies godlike. I mean, for God's sake, Chris co-wrote the Shake Some Action originals and songs like Between The Lines that I worshipped. It was exciting and surreal to have him in our band. He did soften the sound, which eventually became a sore point although live we retained our edge. Writing with Chris was the fulfilment of a dream I hadn't dared to dream. So we embraced working with Chris. Other matters arose in time that made things more difficult but what matters is that Chris will always be one of the true greats and I was very lucky to play with him.
   
During the tenure of the Barracudas, the band penned iconic songs like I WISH IT COULD BE 1965 AGAIN, I CAN'T PRETEND, and I WANT MY WOODY BACK. These songs have obviously stood the test of time.  Did you know this back then when you were writing these songs?
 
Speaking of the B.O. Cult I once interviewed E. Bloom and asked him about Don't Fear The Reaper becoming a huge smash and he pointed out they had no idea it would be until it was. On a more modest scale, we really didn't know. Robin did call me and play Summer Fun over the phone, though, and said it would be a hit and it was indeed a minor hit.
   
EMI worked with the Barracudas.  Did EMI really understand what the Barracudas were all about musically?   Was the band's working relationship with them unbalanced?
   
The guy who signed us, Roger Ames, saw the commercial potential. His successor didn't. They liked the pop-novelty thing but once we started getting more complicated big differences arose. In a way EMI was good for us, but we should have signed to Sire maybe, who also wanted us. We would have been at home there.
   
Is it true that The Barracudas recorded at Ringo Starr's studio?
   
Yeah. Starling. We did Meantime there with Pete Gage (Vinegar Joe) producing. Our drummer Terry knew Pete. Fine little studio, and I did once glimpse Ringo through a dark window!
   
Did you guys do a lot of touring in America back then? 
   
We never toured America. The closest we came was a very short tour in Canada to support Wait for Everything. We toured Europe a lot, over several years.
   
In the latter part of the Barracudas, Australian musician Jim Dickson joined the band.  Since Jim was connected again with Cult Status acts from Australia, Did this allow the band to tour in OZ?
   
We never toured Australia.
   
Musicians or artists always tend to validate their professional existence on meaningful relationships.  Would you say that Greg Shaw releasing your music on VOXX provided that validity?
   
I was aware of BOMP from Groovies and Poppees singles and so on, he was a major inspiration. When he loved and released Drop Out Robin and I were thrilled. We met Greg a few times, he saw us in Paris in 82 and we had a great meeting beforehand. Wonderful man.
   
You credit your brother for being integral to your musical upbringing.  I am presuming that the both of you had a great record collection.  Did you keep a lot of your vinyl?  Did your brother play music?
   
My brother had (and still has) a fantastic record collection. His record collection was my education in good music. He also gave me seminal albums from time to time The Who, The Velvets that became touchstones of my taste.
   
I was surprised to see that you too are a Blue Oyster Cult fan!  I am in touch with Albert Bouchard all the time.  I think that there are 2 chapters to BOC.  The first chapter is the Albert Bouchard era, the 2nd is the Post Albert Bouchard era.  BOC was NEVER the same sans Albert. Do you agree?
   
Yeah. Sure, they weren't the same band. Mind you, I saw them 4 years ago here with Alan Lanier and they were incredible. A band that's toured for like 30 years or more do tend to be tight. I do love some later stuff like “Take Me Away” and "Perfect Water"Jeremy_water_edit but clearly the first four albums are one of the great rolls of rock history. I listen to “Od'd On Life Itself” and it still is visionary. Some bands Suicide is another just sound more and more ahead of their time. It's a gift and prime time BOC have it in spades.
   
Eventually, you started playing more acoustic guitar music, still with lots of musical energy.  Some would say that it was the Folk side of Jeremy Gluck.  Was Rock N Roll becoming too repetitive?  Did you need a breath of fresh air in order to keep you more creative and artistic?
 
The musical and logistical simplicity of acoustic work appealed to me. I also followed as much as led, for example with Nikki, whose solo work was often acoustic. I liked the traditional aspect of it and the connection with country and western music. It could also be easier to sing to.
   
I remember buying BURNING SKULLS RISE and thinking that Jeremy Gluck was musically maturing.  Songs like SORROW DRIVE, and EPISODE IN A TOWN made me think of Jeremy Gluck as an older experienced brother.  Was there any particular music inspiration at that time that convinced you to change gears?  Was it Life itself?
   
Part of it was life and a desire to bring through a different kind of lyrics. I'd done songs like Ballad of a Liar with The Barracudas, but I wanted to be more plain. I was very influenced by old country on Skulls, hence the cover of Marty Robbins that Thin White Rope also covered later. Sorrow Drive and Episode in a Town (the latter the best lyric I've written IMHO) were attempts at archetypes of country and western with lines like “Now I know why they call Main Street a drag” aiming for that brilliant twist in country lyrics that is right on the cusp of comedy and tragedy. I wanted to capture the lostness and sadness of so many lives that were not wasted but not used either, but more like time that breathes.
   
BURNING SKULLS RISE had great musical moments that were driven particularly by emotional passion.  Would you say that your solo material made it easier for your to be more sentimental as an artist?
   
Although there is often more sentiment, I wouldn't agree with the term “sentimental”. On Burning Skulls Nikki and I were very influenced by 50s and 60s root country. I like the hard softness you find in that music and songs like Sorrow Drive aspired to emulate it. There is little directly personal writing in the lyrics, apart from the title track. However I did put in a lot of ideas I had about things beyond the immediate work, an example being The Proving Trail. “Why do we end up so far from where we belong?” was a cop from some French writer, and there are a lot of words and moments that try to reflect a more melancholy and rounded view of life. The title track was later covered by Rowland and Lydia Lunch and now appears on several Goth compilations. Go figure!
   
21 years ago, you released I KNEW BUFFALO BILL.  The crazy thing about this record is the guests that perform on it.  Jeffrey Lee Pierce, Nikki Sudden, and Rowland Howard appear on BUFFALO BILL?  How did all of you meet? 
   
It's all down to Nikki, whose Swell Maps were of course a Rough Trade act. Back in the day Robin and I would hang around the old Rough Trade shop in Kensington High Street, and Nikki would come and go. We did some shows together, hung out, became friends. Over the years we saw a lof of each other and were always planning to record, wrote some songs, did some demo's, the usual. Meanwhile Nikki had met and become buddies with Rowland, whose band his brother Epic drummed with. I was on good terms with Frenchie Gloder of Flicknife Records, who was a monster Barracudas fan. Nikki was in the studio with Rowland and Epic working on an album and he called and asked if I wanted to tack some time on to their session and do our album together. Frenchie jumped at it a dream line-up! - and it began. Jeffrey was put in for another name; Frenchie gave him some drug money and brought him over to do some slide overdubs at the studio where we finished the album.
   
Care to share some moments during the making of I KNEW BUFFALO BILL?  I would have LOVED to be a fly on the studio walls!
   
Ha. Thing is, Lou, most flies in this situation witness only musicians bitching at each other! There were some charmed moments, though. As I was somewhat in awe of Rowland I let him do much as he pleased. Likewise, Epic, who as Nikki's brother and himself a formidable musician, needed no direction. It was a lovely week or whatever. My favourite moment was when I was struggling with the vocal to Nikki's “Gallery Wharf”. I was getting more and more frustrated and then the engineer said, Look, let's do one more for rehearsal and have lunch and try another take when we get back. I liked that and did a very good vocal, and said, I wish we had taken that! There was laughter from the booth: of course the canny engineer had taken it, bless him. Psychology 101.
   
Personally, I thought that the songwriting on I KNEW BUFFALO BILL was very strong. The making of BUFFALO BILL must have provided you a musical learning opportunity.  Did you ever film or document the making of the record?
   
I'm not sure how much I learned as such. But working with outstanding musicians I loved Nikki and admired Rowland and Epic was a great privilege. Some of the songs, like Four Seasons of Trouble, Nikki and I had written in 1983. Others, like Time Undone, were written by me close to recording and the music composed in the studio just before or when I arrived. Time Undone, which has some brilliant guitar from Rowland, is a lyric that does show my desire to tell stories with a metaphysical shading. “To myself I was nothing, as worthless as straw” was a line Rowland and which I had to tell him I had paraphrased from Meister Eckhart, one of the great mediaeval mystics and typical of my reading of the time. Episode In A Town we just doubled in speed for April North! (16 Wheels we...well, I asked Rowland to play Folsom Prison Blues backwards.)
   
A few years later, both Robin and yourself would reform The Barracudas. The new recruits were Steve Robinson and Jay Posner.  The producer of the WAIT FOR EVERYTHING record was the one and only ANDY SHERNOFF.  What made you decide to have Andy as the project producer?
   
I am sure you share my love of The Dictators. Go Girl Crazy was a touchstone when I was still in Ottawa. I got in touch with Andy through my old friend Lindsay Hutton. I just wanted a sympathetic producer. I remember when Andy returned my call I was amazed that he knew all our stuff and even wanted us to re-record a song from Endeavour To Persevere with him. He did a fine job, though the album is for me hardly a success, most of the songs are weak and despite a fantastic drummer in Jay (RIP) the line-up never gelled.
   
WAIT FOR EVERYTHING was another reflection of the Barracudas in comparison to DROP OUT.  The Pop sensibility never went away, and I do not think any of us expected it to vanish.  However, the songs seemed fuller in the way that the band played more into them.  Metaphorically speaking, it would be like the band taking out the other 56 crayons from the box and using them to colour the page, instead of only using 8 colours.  Is this what Andy brought to the record?
   
Andy did have a clear idea about and the ability to get a very crisp pop sound. I've always loved that trebly, crystal power pop thing. Snare sounds that can slice bread and so forth. I don't like the album much, although Can't Get Away From You I find perfect: a classic Robin Wills composition, incredibly economical and tuneful and I sing it well. Steve's I'm The One is superb, I listen to it all the time, even now. But we didn't have our feet in the stirrups and let the things get away. We fixed that on the 2005 album, because we had a new, killer rhythm section and Robin produced himself with a perfect grasp of how we should sound. That album I am very proud of. Wait I see as a missed opportunity.
   
Additonal vocals on WAIT FOR EVERYTHING are courtesy of the SURFIN' LUNGS.   When and how did you meet the Surfin' Lungs?  I have the LET THEM EAT SURF record, and I like it a lot.  Did Robin play in the Surfin Lungs after the Barracudas?
   
Robin worked with and produced the Lungs, I believe, but I really don't know that much about that collaboration. We knew them from an early stage of the band. I envied them their harmonies.
   
Songs like LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO FALL, and GONE FREE were examples of how well both Nikki and yourself worked together.  Prior to Nikki passing away, the both of you collaborated on the soon to be released record called VICTIM OF DREAMS.  When was this recorded?
 
The new album is really an old and new album. I wanted to compile the best of my older material and throw in new. There will be a companion iTunes album eventually that covers what the album doesn't include. My original idea was a kinda Bill The Sequel. While Nikki was still alive I contacted him and he recorded two songs for me, which I overdubbed at home. I did some new thematic songs with my local pals Superczar Train Station and The White River and some 'net collaborations, notably with Circo Fantasma and Indianpalms, Italian bands whose quasi-tribute “I Knew Jeffrey Lee” Nikki had told me about and includes covers of 3 songs from the Bill album. I did want to write with Rowland again but it just didn't happen, although we did speak just before and after Nikki died. Other songs have diverse origins, from sessions in 1985 in Paris, to work with electronic duo Zone to whose albums I have contributed over the years.I've done a lot of electronic stuff, including lately with Michael Dent formerly of TO legacy punks The Dents, putting his words to sounds collages.
   
The VICTIM OF DREAMS is an interesting title.  Is that a true reflection of yourself?
   
The title derives from a poem I wrote in 2006. I would say that it is a reflection of one or more of my selves but maybe not all. A friend took issue with seeming to term myself a “victim” but I'm not partial to psychobabble definitions. I know what I intend by the title. As they say in Zen, “Explanations never convince”, so I will desist from explanation.
   
Many of us also know you as RALPH TRAITOR, the music journalist.  You wrote for SOUNDS, BUCKETFULL OF BRAINS, MOJO and even LINDSEY HUTTON'S NEXT BIG THING.  Your writing was an incredible documentation of a very diverse musical period.  Were there any highlights from your Journalistic adventures that stand out? 
   
One alone must take top spot and that was meeting Brian Wilson. Say no more.
   
You have also written a few books where you are spoofing the American Culture.  I am presuming Burroughs was an influence? 
   
My older brother influenced me a great deal in books, too, and I read Burroughs' work as a teen and over the years used the cut up technique extensively in my own writing. Burroughs was a revolutionary of the word and his final novel, The Western Lands, I absolutely venerate.
   
I have not had the chance to actually get hard copies of  GOD IS LOVE - GET IT IN WRITING, or NECROTRIVIA vs SKULL.  I have read reviews and both of these titles are critically acclaimed.  Did you find it different being a literary artist as opposed to a musician?  Is one more rewarding than the other?
   
I've always written and done music in parallel. Love both.
   
Which pays better?..hahahha
   
I do what I do for love, Lou, you know that!
   
Just from what I have read on the reviews of your books, we are introduced to another side of Jeremy Gluck.  For an example, Sci-Fi seems to be predominant in both books.  Have you ever thought about writing music with Sci-Fi stories? 
   
Not since my teens. I loved 50s and 60s sci-fi, with its naivete and story telling. I don't read sci-fi. I don't write it, either, my books are more straight satire with flourishes around spirituality and technology. I did write a third novel, The Love Gun, but it was unpublished; it did have more sci-fi in it but was mostly a dark and cynical meditation on the so-called New Age.
   
You are involved with Spiritech.  I understand that it is an Electronic Religion.  Its about the Spiritual Revolution in cyberspace.  How would this compare to more common religions and spiritual practices?
 
My Spiritech project has now been retired. It was active from about 1996-2004, but its height of activity was maybe five years. The e-book I published based on the Spiritech material is still online at http://www.ebookmall.com/ebook/65163-ebook.htm.
   
How has SPIRITECH changed Jeremy Gluck?
 
Spiritech played a major role in my life for some years. As I originated it for the most part in the form it took and the content it comprised I don't feel it changed me: it was an expression of me. I had an adventure with Spiritech but this isn't really the place to go into it, and in any case it is behind me now.
   
Did you get a chance to see Arthur Lee and Love in 2003?
   
Yes, but passed. No judgement of Lee, I just didn't go.
   
Who are you currently listening to nowadays? Any new acts or artists that impress Jeremy Gluck?
   
Huh. I tend to know nothing of what I term “young people's music”, which would be anything after about 1995 ;) The last band I went for in a big way was early Placebo. I listen to what I always did, with later loves like Van Morrison and The Smiths also high on the list. I listen to The Who compulsively, they have been my musical heroes since before my teens. I get into stuff like Denim, then forget it. As I write this I am listening to Mink Deville, The Comsat Angels, and Bebop Deluxe. I heard The Arctic Monkeys once, for thirty seconds and put on Baba O'Riley. Who needs the aggravation?
   
If you had the chance to produce a band, who would you choose?
   
Britney Spears. If ever there was a candidate to cover “Sometimes Good Guys Don't Wear White” it must be Brit!
   
Has there ever been a record by an artist or band that you wished you either played on or produced?
   
Where do I begin?
   
MC5 - Did you know that Bob Seger sang back up on High Time?
   
No. Did you know that The Kingsmen's Don Galucci produced Funhouse?
   
What did you think of The Stooges' WEIRDNESS record?
   
Let me preface my few remarks by assuring readers that I adored The Stooges and Iggy for years and still venerate their seminal recordings. I did listen to some of the new album and was left cold. The lyrics are lousy, and although the Ashetons still can make you feel a truck has been dropped on your head from an upper floor, it all seemed like a “Look Ma, new band!” exercise. Today we are stuck with digital sound, which is clean and clear but means bands sound like people playing at the same time, not together. I love The Stooges, but it did nothing for me. Look, Moses comes down from the mountain only once in the Bible. That would be Funhouse, by analogy. What did they propose to bring down this time?
   
When did you last visit Canada? 

  

Not for some years, too long.
   
When did you first meet Ralph Alfonso?
   
In Toronto in 1977.
   
Do you have any great Teenage Head memories?
   
That's a rather personal question, Lou, and if you're not going to be nice I am afraid I am going to have to end this interview!
 
 
 
 
 
 

February 27, 2008

THE NEW YORK DOLLS

THE NEW YORK DOLLS

Hello Folks.  Buckshot and I had the opportunity to see the New York Dolls on February 18th at the Phoenix.  Couple of things stood out about this show.  First of all, the Dolls are still terrific!  While some critics slag them for trying to be what they were 30 years ago, I believe that they really never changed.  They have not changed because they are real.  When you think about influential bands like The Who, Stones, & MC5, you have to include the New York Dolls in the mix too.  C'mon folks.....these guys revolutionized a look that would inspire everyone from Axl Rose to Robin Black.  Without the Dolls, Rock N Roll would have been pretty boring.

Ideally and chronologically, they stemmed from the Velvet Underground/Warhol scene without the pretentiousness.  As much as I love the Velvets, too many of the so called fans used their music to indulge in their personal drama.  However, the Dolls grabbed a fish (dressed in drag of course) and smacked you on the side of the head with it.  The Dolls were not afraid to simplyfy the art of music, and they showed their true colours by building their sound on acts like the Shangri-Las, and on Doo Wop genre.

I had the opportunity to interview David JohansenDolls on February 6th in support of the New York Dolls Toronto show.  To describe how I felt about chatting with David is unexplainable.  One of the greatest Rock N Roll singers and Frontmen!  Luckily he leads a sensation called the New York Dolls.  I hope you enjoy the interview...

LOU - It's 2:29 and change here at C-101.5 FM.  Man oh Man, what a huge pleasure to introduce to you David Johansen of The New York Dolls.  David, are you there?

DJ - Yes, I am here, and the pleasure is all mine, Lou.

LOU - Ah, THANK YOU...you are a kind gentleman.  Also joining me in the studio is my girlfriend Buckshot Bebee who is a huge fan of the David Johansen and The New York Dolls.

Buckshot - Hi David!!!!!

DJ- Hello!

LOU - Buckshot actually recorded Puss N Boots on her debut record with the Poisoned Aeros, and the one and only Sylvain Sylvain also sat in on it.

DJ - Really?  I do not know why I was not aware of this...(chuckling)

LOU - Well, you know how sneaky Sylvain is, right?

DJ - That's true.  I never really know what he is up to.  I have given up trying, Lou!!!

LOU - You don't try anymore?

DJ - No, I turned my thoughts towards other pursuits, because I know when I am licked!

LOU - OK...well, let's talk about some of your pursuits.  Aside from the New York Dolls, and we will talk about the Dolls....but you have become an amazing actor.  I have followed a lot of your acting, including a great episode of OZ recently.  PRISONER 96Z858.Dolls_l

DJ - hahahaha...Was that my name?  What I recall from that OZ episode was that I was walking down the street in Manhatten, and literally, an 87 year old lady maybe even older like 90 was dressed in black.  She looked like a widow, she walked with a cane and as I walked by her, she said to me.."Oh, I saw you on OZ!"  I said to her "You watch that show???? "

LOU - Wow David....she is the coolest 90 year old lady in the world!

DJ - More like a lady from Central Casting!..hahahaha

LOU - It was a pretty intense episode where you were in a kitchen and you threw hot grease from a pan at someone's crotch?

DJ - I can't really remember, but on that show they would show the crime, and I believe that I threw bacon fat in the face of my boss.  I was a short order cook, or something like that.  It was some horrible thing that I did to him.

LOU - Looking at your acting career over the years, I really do believe that you are still at the prime of your career.  Its hard to think that you have been at this for over 30 years!  As much as you have been a visionary, you have also been a chameleon where you have been lucky to be able to change into so many roles.  You are a Rock N Roll singer, actor, Lounge singer.  Heck, you were doing this Lounge thing even before it became popular again.  You were almost a 2nd generation proto-type Lounge singer as Buster Pointdexter.

DJ - Yeah....First came Louis Prima, and then came Buster Pointdexter.

LOU - You are very comfortable with all that you do.  You are a very natural born entertainer.  You must be happy with everything that you have been involved with.

DJ - I am not complaining.

LOU - Almost 10 years ago, you were involved in a project called September Songs. 

DJ - Oh yeah.....!  I think that we did that in Toronto.

LOU - No way?

DJ - Yeah....that was a lot of fun.Dolls0un

LOU - I remember when it came out, the critics praised it.  The video that you were in was also very cool.  Your make up in the video was remarkable.  Folks, the video is on Youtube.  Check it out!  Also, you did a beautiful Hymm with an acoustic guitar player a few years ago.  I loved that song!  Who was that on guitar with you? 

DJ -Oh, that was Brian Koonin.  We both played in the Harry Smiths.

LOU - Wanna hear a funny story about the Harry Smiths?

DJ - Yeah...

LOU - Back in 1998, and I want to remind you that this is a true story and for this reason, The Harry Smiths will always be scarred on my skin....Through one of the links of the Harry Smiths website, I got this very bad computer virus and I ended up losing tons of stuff on the computer!

DJ - Really?  What site was that?  I don't think that we had an actual Harry Smiths website, but our record company had a Harry Smiths website  .

LOU - That's the one!

DJ - Back then, wow, I don't think any of us had a computer!

LOU - And now you do?

DJ - Now, I have a computer and everything that goes with it.  Lou, I am really with it!

LOU - How are you enjoying this re-incarnation of the Dolls?  The different players obviously add a new and different dynamic to the band.  Obviously, you can not compare 30 years ago to today.  You are a new band, times have changed, and both Syl and yourself have changed.  Some of the reviews that I read on the latest record had critics saying that it did not sound like the first 2 records, but c'mon give me a break! 

DJ - Well, I don't think any 2 records really sound the same anyway.  Except for maybe Badfinger who sound a lot like Wings.

LOU - Wow...David!  You threw me for a loop there!  Do you listen to a lot of Wings and Badfinger?

DJ - No, I don't, but its the first thing that came to my mind.  There are 2 bands that put out records that sounded alike.

LOU - Oh yeah, that thick production quality.  I know what you mean.

DJ - Yeah...You can probably compare any 2 records that were produced by Jeff Lynne and they would sound alike...hahahaha. But other than that......Lou!  I can't think of any! hahahahahahaha

LOU - hahahahahaha

LOU - Your last release on Roadrunner records was a successful record in my opinion.  I loved the record, the songs, and I thought that Jack Douglas did a great job on the production.  But as a fan, it was great to see the longevity of the Dolls still continue.

DJ - Oh Cool! Being in this band is really great!  You see, I am a member of this band, and I do not have the responsibilities of having to wash the bottles or keep a count of things.  I go in, I sing, and that makes it a great gig!

LOU - A Few years ago when Sylvain spent almost 10 days with Buckshot and I, he was with another New York band called the She Wolves.  He kind of tipped me off saying "Lou, I think that its going to happen!  I think that David wants to do it!".  I was freakging!  So was that when Morrissey entered the picture?  Luckily the band did get back together, but what were your first impressions?

DJ - Well, here is how it went Lou.  Morrissey called because he was producing and booking a week of shows in London.  They do this every year.  They pick a different rock star to pick a bunch of bands.  So, Morrissey booked all the acts for this week of shows.  He called and said, "Would you guys like to do a show?"  So we went into this really only expecting to do one show only.  The show sold out. I don't know...pretty quickly.  So, they added a 2nd show.  We knew that we were going to do 2 shows and stay in a really nice hotel.  We went into this thing thinking "let's have the most fun that we could possibly have!"  So after it was all said and done, we got a lot of good notes on the shows.  This was in June 2004 I think.  Afterwards, we were invited to play festivals like Leeds and Reading and all these other mud baths...(hahahahaha).  So we figured lets do these shows too because we are having so much fun.  Eventually, a year or a year and a half later, we were still doing shows together.  So, we decided to make a record because we're in a band and that's what we do.  So, we really did not go into this in any way planning a reunion or something like that.  You know what I mean?  I think that would have been too much!  But the fact that we just fell into it, and it lead us instead of us trying to lead it, that drove the train and it worked out the way it did.

LOU - You must have been overwhelmed by the positive reactions from all over.  Especially from musicians themselves.  They were embracing the news of the Dolls getting back together.  If you look at guests that appeared on your last record like Michael Stipe, it showed us that there were lots of Dolls fans who did not look or try to sound like the Dolls.

DJ - Well, a lot of musicians tell me that they were inspired by the Dolls.  As far as we are concerned, we consider ourselves as artists.  Probably, the most important job of an artist is to inspire other artists.  The Dolls are a big package.  We have philosophy, fashion, and we have music.  We have all this stuff going on, so people took different things from the Dolls and different aspects were applied to their art.  Yeah, that is very satisfying.

LOU - I know that the Dolls have always been fasion innovators and visionaries with the Rock N Roll look.  Plus, 30 years later, looking at the Dolls and your age group....there are not many cooler looking guys than Sylvain and yourself.  You are setting a standard for guys who are maturing to still look cool.  We are grateful that you are not directing us in the old man's department of clothing.

DJ - I guess so, I never really thought about that.  I wear what I wear, and I go walking around and people say to me..."Oh, there goes David".  So, I don't even know....

LOU - Couple of weeks ago, I had the opportunity to see Todd Rundgen, and I had the chance to meet him and get some stuff signed.  With a bunch of Todd records, I also included 2 records that he produced.  One was the Sparks/Halfnelson record, and the other was the Dolls debut record.  In a very respectful way, he said to me..."Wow, this record still continues to haunt me!"

DJ - Well...that is a great record.  Its kind of an iconic record.

LOU - Did you guys realize the importance of that first record when you were recording it?

DJ - Well, at the time, we were very excited about making a record, and we were very happy that Todd agreed to produce it.  I don't know if we thought too much beyond that, or what its impact would be.  We were inclined to make a certain kind of Rock N Roll music.  We all had staunch ideas about how Rock N Roll should be played, and how it should be presented.  I think that Todd understood that.  We maybe worked in the studio for a week or so. It definitely was not a long drawn out process.  It was how the bad played, and it did not have a lot of overdubs on it.  So, it was not like we tinkered with the sound too much.  But we did have very strong ideas about the record.  You know how Folk Art is?  Someone one paints a rooster on a side of a barn.  They are not doing it because they want to put it in a gallery, they do it because they want to do it.  Its not really geared for the marketplace.  Its geared towards